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  Greeting a person(who was removed from the congregation) at the Kingdom Hall now becomes a matter of conscience

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  the watchtower—study edition | august 2024. help for those who are removed from the congregation.

  14 does what we have considered mean that we would completely ignore a person who has been removed from the congregation?

  not necessarily.

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  This is all a legal ploy in attempt for the Borg to look like a gentler religion.

  Yes, all these changes are probably as a result of the JW lawyers advising them.

  
  

  Question Box

  ● In view of our understanding of 2 John 9-11 as discussed in The Watchtower of August 1, 1974, would there ever be circumstances that would allow for a disfellowshipped person to attend a meeting held in a private home?

  Generally speaking, disfellowshipped persons are not invited to meetings held in private homes. The Organization book (page 174) said: “A disfellowshipped person is not prohibited from attending meetings in the Kingdom Hall open to the general public as long as he conducts himself properly. None will greet him, of course, and he may not attend any meetings held in private homes.” This is true concerning those who are ‘pushing ahead’ and do not “remain in the teaching of the Christ.”
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  Greeting a person(who was removed from the congregation) at the Kingdom Hall now becomes a matter of conscience

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
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  the watchtower—study edition | august 2024. help for those who are removed from the congregation.

  14 does what we have considered mean that we would completely ignore a person who has been removed from the congregation?

  not necessarily.

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  The Watchtower—Study Edition | August 2024

  Help for Those Who Are Removed From the Congregation

  14 Does what we have considered mean that we would completely ignore a person who has been removed from the congregation? Not necessarily. Certainly, we would not socialize with him. But Christians can use their Bible-trained conscience in deciding whether to invite a person who was removed from the congregation​—perhaps a relative or someone they were close to previously—​to attend a congregation meeting. What if he attends? In the past, we would not greet such a person. Here again, each Christian needs to use his Bible-trained conscience in this matter. Some may feel comfortable with greeting or welcoming the person to the meeting. However, we would not have an extended conversation or socialize with the individual.

  

  The Watchtower lawyers are at it again. Relax the rules and regulations of the Watchtower Society so that they can show government authorities that they are not an extreme religion and not loose their religious funding.

  After relaxing the dress code for men ( no suits and ties ), woman can now wear slacks, members do not need to fill out a Field Service Report and men can grow beards.

  Now the Watchtower Society have decided ( exactually the lawyers ) that if your Bible-trained conscience allows it, you can greet or welcome a disfellowshipped at a Kingdom Hall meeting.

  '' IN THE PAST, WE WOULD NOT GREET SUCH A PERSON.'' What a long way the Watchtower Society has come from the days a disfellowshipped person walked in the last second, sat in the back row of the Kingdom Hall and left as soon as the prayer ended.

  All these new changes are not ''Bible-trained conscience matters'', nor ''praying to Jehovah for new light'', but financial matters set by Watchtower lawyers.
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  The Watchtower—Study Edition | September 2024

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  the watchtower—study edition | september 2024. enjoy the greater happiness that comes from giving.

  9 though we are imperfect humans, we can imitate jehovah’s generous use of power.

  we cannot literally impart strength, or energy, to others.

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  There must be thousands of people like this in congregations - all needing assistance til they die..

  I know an elderly couple from my old congregation that had to sell their home and move to an assisted living apartments. After using up all their profits from the sale of their home and using their pensions for living in their units, they do not have enough money to stay. Now, they have no choice but to live in a State Facility ( paid by the tax payers). I'm sure the units and care will be not up to par as a private facility.

  I don’t see any social programs in the religion to help, do you?

  The only social program the Society have are multi-million $$$$ facilities for themselves in beautiful tree lined Lake settings.

  
  
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  The Watchtower—Study Edition | September 2024

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  the watchtower—study edition | september 2024. enjoy the greater happiness that comes from giving.

  9 though we are imperfect humans, we can imitate jehovah’s generous use of power.

  we cannot literally impart strength, or energy, to others.

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  The Watchtower—Study Edition | September 2024
  

  Enjoy the Greater Happiness That Comes From Giving

  9 Though we are imperfect humans, we can imitate Jehovah’s generous use of power. We cannot literally impart strength, or energy, to others. But we can use our power in their behalf. For example, we might run errands or do household chores for an elderly or infirm Christian. If our circumstances permit, we could volunteer to help with the cleaning and the maintenance of the Kingdom Hall. Our use of power in such ways benefits others who worship Jehovah.

  
  14 When we are generous, especially toward our brothers and sisters, they often express appreciation in return. They may send a thank-you note or express their gratitude in another way. (Col. 3:15) Receiving such expressions of appreciation adds to our happiness.

  We read many times the parable of 'The Good Samaritan' that Jesus taught. The Watchtower Society have never put this parable into practice. The Watchtower Society have always acted like the priest and the Levite (who passed by the victim who needed help because he was not one of their own).

  This study edition shows the Watchtower's true colors...help elderly or infirm Christians ( meaning a Jehovah's Witness), clean and maintain Kingdom Halls, help others who worship Jehovah and be generous towards 'our brothers and sisters'.

  The Watchtower Society never mention helping anyone besides their own members. Kingdom Hall maintenance and Kingdom interests always have more priorities than assisting poor people, widows, homeless, orphans and the handicapped.

  
  
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  Yesterday's Public Talk: '' Reject Worldly Fantasies, Pursue Kingdom Realities''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  my brother ( an elder ) calls me every time he's assigned a public talk.

  he believes listening to zoom meetings is a great start, to eventually attending in-person meetings.

  the talk is titled : '' reject worldly fantasies, pursue kingdom realities.

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  My brother ( an elder ) calls me every time he's assigned a Public Talk. He believes listening to Zoom meetings is a great start, to eventually attending in-person meetings.

  The talk is titled : '' Reject Worldly Fantasies, Pursue Kingdom Realities.'' Already, I'm turned off by the word ''worldly.'' I married an unbeliever 30 years ago and always hated that ''weasel'' word.

  There are at least 20 members on the Zoom meeting with their cameras turned off. Several members (with their cameras turned on) are dozing off. ( It's only 10: a.m.??? )

  The talk is about the dangers of ''Worldly Fantasies'' such as reading books and magazines, watching television, watching and attending sporting events. The only pursuits should be Kingdom Realities... attending meetings, reading the Bible and Preaching the Good News.

  A photo of beautiful Niagara Falls was shown. Beauty has its own danger. The ''Falls'' have multiple DANGER signs if you get too close to the edge. Pursuing ''Worldly Fantasies'' is even more dangerous. You will loose your life if you don't pursue Jehovah.

  How anyone can sit through these Public Talks is beyond me!
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  My latest letter to the WT organization

  by Kosonen in

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  may 14, 2024. hello brothers at the writing committee.

  many brothers and sisters are wondering when will the end come?

  we were supposed to live in the last days of the last days as brother lett told a couple of years ago.

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  I think Kosonen is the ''new'' Robert (Watchman) King. He thinks that he understands and can translate the ''deeper understandings of the Bible.'' Once you take off your ''rose colored'' glasses, you will understand that the Bible is nothing but fictional stories. Research the fictional story of Noah and the flood (where God saves only his family and wipes out all creation because of wickedness...only for wickedness to return 0ne thousand fold)
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  Governing body giving false alarm as a watch dog

  by Longlivetherenegades in

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  i need help regarding a video where geoffrey jackson likened the governing body to a watch dog given false alarms to its owner just like they do regarding numerous false alarms about the world coming to an end.

  here is why i need that video.

  to make comparison with the words of geoffrey jackson (the false dog illustration) fully, the words of gerrit losch (who was reading out list of those who had given false predictions and alarms in times past before jehovah’s witnesses took over) .

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  Jeffrey Jackson: Too much excitement got in the way for the ''false dates''
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  Conversation with old friend

  by LongHairGal in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i recently had a conversation with an old acquaintance from the congregation i used to attend.

  we talked about the recent changes in the 2023 annual meeting.

  i especially pointed out the one about getting rid of hourly reporting on monthly time slips.

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  We talked about the recent changes in the 2023 annual meeting. I especially pointed out the one about getting rid of hourly reporting on monthly time slips. I mentioned that this was a century old teaching - and that many JWs are poor today because of not getting careers and instead spending years in the ministry.

  My uncle ( who was an elder for over 50 years) passed away 10 tens ago at the age of 88. He was baptized in1957 at the age of 31. He convinced his 2 sisters ( one of them was my mom ) that Jehovah's Witnesses had the ''truth''. Our family had over 20 baptized members.
  

  His whole life was dedicated to the Jehovah's Witnesses. He only took jobs that had weekends off, day hours and took unpaid vacations in the summers so he could attend assemblies. Never went on any vacations. Just to Canada and New York for speaking parts at the assemblies. Worked as a custodian most of his life. He was just happy to pay his bills. Drove old cars and never went out to restaurants.

  He retired at 65 so he could become a full time Pioneer. Spending over 60 hours a month in ''field service'', non-stop elder meetings, congregation meetings and prep work, and spent loads of money on gas. And what did he get in return for his hard work and dedication to the Watchtower Society...NEVER GOT HIS PROMISE TO THE NEW SYSTEM AND A SLAP IN THE FACE FROM THE WATCHTOWER SOCIETY WHEN THEY DECIDED TO GET RID OF MONTHLY REPORTS!
  
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  The Jehovah's Witness religion has ''Jumped the Shark''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  what does jump the shark mean?.

  the phrase “jump the shark” is a term in pop culture that originated from the tv show “happy days” and is used to describe a decline in quality.

  it refers to the moment when a tv show or other product has reached its peak and starts to decline in quality.

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  What Does Jump The Shark Mean?

  The phrase “jump the shark” is a term in pop culture that originated from the TV show “Happy Days” and is used to describe a decline in quality. It refers to the moment when a TV show or other product has reached its peak and starts to decline in quality. The term comes from an episode of “Happy Days” in which the character Fonzie jumps over a shark while water skiing, which was seen as an absurd and desperate attempt to keep the show interesting. Critics adopted the phrase, and it has since been used to describe TV shows that have ridiculous plot twists and story lines. The term has also been used more broadly to describe any product or trend that has reached its peak and is starting to decline.

  

  I haven't attended a Kingdom Hall, Convention, Assembly meeting in 10 years. The changes from the Watchtower Society has led me to believe that the religion has ''jumped the shark.'' It has become a desperate attempt to pander their product and avoid Watchtower scandals. Here are some ''jumping the shark'' trends that show the Watchtower Society's decline:

  

  Caleb and Sophia...Cartoon characters
  

  

  Cart Witnessing Field Service

  

  JW Broadcasting

  The Discontinuation of Field Service Reports
  

  
  
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  Jehovah changes directions in ''field service hours'' resonsibilty and assignments

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  https://jws-library.one/?file=data/1943/w_e_19430701/w_e_19430701.html#bookmark2.

  https://jws-library.one/?list=publications&pubid=w_e_19430701&year=1943.

  these expressions of god’s will by his king and through his established agency constitute his law or rule of action for the “faithful and wise servant” and for their goodwill companions today who will dwell upon the earth for ever in the new world.

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  I first came across this in the Winter of 74/75 in the Watchtower Farms library one evening while I was doing research/personal study. Needless to say this led to many, many sleepless nights for me and started me on the path to my first 'nervous breakdown'.

  Can you elaborate?

  I cannot believe how many ''field service hours'' were required in 1943. Also, telling everyone these hours were established directly from Jehovah to the ''faithful and wise servant'' and to ''shut up'' about the insane amount of hours.